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Post by Byzantine_Bithynia Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:33 am

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Since we've got a music discussion thread, and have occasionally - albeit somewhat briefly - talked about video games, I figured perhaps we should have a thread for discussing them. So, here is a thread just for that. Feel free to talk about anything involving video games; what ones you like, stories from them, etc.



I'll start off with a little story from Crusader Kings 2:

So, I had been playing in Ireland (I was still kind of a scrub at the game) and had formed an empire encompassing Ireland and most of England, and was in the process of slowly taking over scotland. My Emperor had an heir, who was married. Well, it turned out the Emperor kind of liked his sons wife and decided to make a move on her. It worked, and the two had some sex. A baby was born of this union, but the heir thought it was his son, and the truth was never discovered.

Fast forward some years later, when the previous emperor had died, and his heir now sat on the throne. The secret bastard child of the last emperor, thought to be the son of the current one, was now married and had a wife. Well, it turned out the Emperor kind of liked his sons wife and decided to make a move on her. It worked, and the two had sex. And low and behold: A baby was born. But, once again, the son thought it was his! No one was ever the wiser. For a second time the heir of the current heir was actually the son of the current emperor.

I hope I was able to explain that properly without having to create a set of complex diagrams to show it all Razz
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Post by House of Judah Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:42 pm

So, what you are saying is that the direct line of succession will be maintained with the exception of the brief hiccup in the middle there.  Nice.

Currently doing a campaign, starting as the Chieftain of Dublin and am currently the Tribal King of Alba and Eire (I acquired Alba first, then finished consolidating Eire).  I am still trying to fully consolidate Alba beneath my rule, including breaking the remaining vassal chieftains and taking the counties still under Northumbrian control.  My plans going forward are to eventually convert into a merchant republic and consolidate Britannia and Brittany into a great republic.  Once I've assembled that, I'll see where I want to go from there.
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Post by Varasd Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:32 am

I tried playing as a nomadic tengri kingdom... It's all good until the mongols come, because they're almost undefeatable.

But raiding is so much fun! I've raided Constantinople once, took the Emperor's heir as hostage. Then, the heir was raised by one of my high piety court members, and alas! He converted to Tengrism. When his father died, I've released him, and now the whole of the Byzantine empire had the state religion of Tengrism.

I did the same to Hungary, Poland, Muscowy, Novgorod, and even a bavarian duchy.

Did the same thing with vikings too, I've established my holding in Sicily, and then kidnapped and raised heirs, basically made half the Mediterrean viking pagans.
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Post by Byzantine_Bithynia Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:36 am

Varasd wrote:I tried playing as a nomadic tengri kingdom... It's all good until the mongols come, because they're almost undefeatable.

But raiding is so much fun! I've raided Constantinople once, took the Emperor's heir as hostage. Then, the heir was raised by one of my high piety court members, and alas! He converted to Tengrism. When his father died, I've released him, and now the whole of the Byzantine empire had the state religion of Tengrism.

I did the same to Hungary, Poland, Muscowy, Novgorod, and even a bavarian duchy.

Did the same thing with vikings too, I've established my holding in Sicily, and then kidnapped and raised heirs, basically made half the Mediterrean viking pagans.

You're going to give Azaq ideas Razz
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Post by Varasd Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:14 am

Byzantine_Bithynia wrote:

You're going to give Azaq ideas Razz

Damnit! Very Happy Then we'll need to wait until the mongol hordes arrive and crush him. Wait... he IS the mongol horde! We're doomed.
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Post by Byzantine_Bithynia Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:55 pm

Varasd wrote:
Byzantine_Bithynia wrote:

You're going to give Azaq ideas Razz

Damnit! Very Happy Then we'll need to wait until the mongol hordes arrive and crush him. Wait... he IS the mongol horde! We're doomed.

it is easy to become comfortable with the enemy you know, our familiar foes. But to discount the menaces that lurk beyond the known world is to risk a rude awakening that can become a nightmare...
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Post by Varasd Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:20 am

Just came into my mind, that Crusader Kings 2 save files are convertible to Europe Universalis IV. I've once lead the Hungarian Kingdom, coming from a small tribal chief (count, rank), to a Kingdom, overtaking it, expanding it, and then colonising North-Africa and conquering the Balkans and Middle-Europe with it in EUIV.
I've read that you can convert the saves to Victoria aswell, but when I've tried that game, it just seemed immensely complicated. Did any of you play Victoria?
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Post by House of Judah Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:50 pm

With strategy games, there is an axis. At one side is complete simplicity, which is not very fun you might play for a while as a casual game. On the other is so horribly complicated it is effectively unplayable and you just toss in the bin. Somewhere there is a perfect balance point.

When they were making Vic, they blew past that balance point on their way to complicated, realized what they had done and decided in for a penny in for pound.
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Post by Byzantine_Bithynia Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:54 pm

I have Vic...haven't played much of it because I still don't quite know entirely what I'm doing, but I've never touched converting from EUIV to Vic...
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Post by House of Judah Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:53 pm

There are rumors of a VicIII in development which will have a game converter along with HOI4 so you can go CKII⇒EUIV⇒VicIII⇒HOI4. I've also seen a couple about a EU:RII or the development of a new series for antiquity, though I'm not sure about any of those with their confirmed work on HOI4, Stellaris and continued CKII and EUIV development.
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Post by Cybelos [ERE] Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:02 pm

Anybody here ever play Colonization or the Civ IV remake? I've been feeling like getting back into that, good fun.
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Post by Varasd Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:36 am

House of Judah wrote:There are rumors of a VicIII in development which will have a game converter along with HOI4 so you can go CKII⇒EUIV⇒VicIII⇒HOI4.  I've also seen a couple about a EU:RII or the development of a new series for antiquity, though I'm not sure about any of those with their confirmed work on HOI4, Stellaris and continued CKII and EUIV development.

That would be cool, leading a nation for about 2500 years!
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Post by Byzantine_Bithynia Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:31 am

Just got back into playing skyrim, and man, some of the armors make me cry inside.
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Post by Varasd Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:13 am

Byzantine_Bithynia wrote:Just got back into playing skyrim, and man, some of the armors make me cry inside.

That's why I modded skyrim until it they were gone!
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Post by Byzantine_Bithynia Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:14 am

That's what I plan to do, mod away all the sillyness.

There is a really nice mod which replaces all the imperial armor with proper Roman armor, and it's amazing.
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Post by Varasd Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:46 pm

I mostly went for full survival realism. A portable tent/bedroll, making campfires, cooking, freezing temperature, hunger and thirst, and if you get wet you can catch a cold, the rain can make your clothes wet, etc.
No fast travel either.
It made the whole "nordic wildlands" experience much better imo. Though becoming a werewolf makes it easier because then you could eat raw meat.

So I've played as an "ex-legionnarie" hunter/archer. It was good!
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Post by Scilenia Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:41 pm

I've used that mod. It vastly improves the imperial's armor.
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Post by Byzantine_Bithynia Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:23 pm

Varasd wrote:I mostly went for full survival realism. A portable tent/bedroll, making campfires, cooking, freezing temperature, hunger and thirst, and if you get wet you can catch a cold, the rain can make your clothes wet, etc.
No fast travel either.
It made the whole "nordic wildlands" experience much better imo. Though becoming a werewolf makes it easier because then you could eat raw meat.

So I've played as an "ex-legionnarie" hunter/archer. It was good!

Something like that sounds like it would be quite fun. I played with the frostfall mod once, I remember that walking up to meet the greybeards required me camping quite a few times, under little rocky overhangs and stuff. It was fun.
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Post by Kingdom of Calabria Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:47 pm

What is Skyrim?
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Post by Varasd Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:49 pm

Calabrian Republic wrote:What is Skyrim?

http://www.elderscrolls.com/skyrim/
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Post by Byzantine_Bithynia Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:01 am

My game in Skyrim has gone quite well recently. I have a mod which adds in Paladin armor, based off of the knights of the nine from previous games. To get it I had to go on a pilgrimage which took me across the whole of Skyrim...multiple times.

Questing:

Finally, after going to lots of shrines and completing some trials, I got the armor!

It was hard to give up my steel plate, but...

Shiny:

Sadly, I had to cheat a little and disable Frostfall, since one shrine the mod adds is under the ocean in the coldest region in the game, so going down there without turning that off would not have worked out well.
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Post by Varasd Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:57 am

I think if you stack up enough water breathing and cold resistance potions, plus you leave a fire and some warm clothes on the surface, you could do it. I remember I dived down to a ship wreck once like that.

The armor's nice though.
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Post by Scilenia Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:54 pm

So, does anyone play Mount and Blade Warband?
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Post by Byzantine_Bithynia Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:42 pm

Yes, that game is great!
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Post by Scilenia Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:53 pm

I know right? Have you played it with the Anno Domni 1400 (I forgot the exact number) mod?
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